Saturday, September 26, 2009

SOCIETY OF ST.PIUS X IN ACCORD WITH VATICAN COUNCIL II


The Society of St.Pius Xl are in agreement with Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7,Lumen Gentium 14) which says that all people need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation and that those who know this and yet do not enter are oriented to Hell.
The SSPX interprets Vatican Council II according to Pope Benedict XVI and not the secular media interpretations.

They see Lumen Gentium 14 as the ordinary way of salvation and Lumen Gentium 16 as the extraordinary way of salvation.
No where in the much reported Nostra Aetate,Vatican Council II is it said that Judaism is a path to salvation and that Jews can be saved in general in Judaism or that Jews do not need to convert.
The SSPX agree that Vatican Council II was an historical event.They also, like the Holy Father, interpret the Council as a continuation and not a break from Sacred Tradition.

CDF(Holy Office) supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston in Letter of the Holy Office 1949

There is no document which says that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy. It is not said in the Letter of the Holy Office (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.
The Letter does not specify when it is describing de facto or de jure what it calls the dogma.
Since it was a statement of the Magisterium the Letter had to be in harmony with Sacred Tradition.

I use the words de facto and de jure. I could also say at the level of theology and the intellect (de jure) as compared to the practical level, the level of personal contact, personal evangelisation (de facto).The words de jure(in principle) and de facto are used in the Introduction of Dominus Iesus.
The Letter states:

We are bound by divine and Catholic faith to believe all those things which are contained in the word of God, whether it be Scripture or Tradition, and are proposed by the Church to be believed as divinely revealed, not only through solemn judgment but also through the ordinary and universal teaching office (, n. 1792).
Comment: We are bound de jure. We implement it de facto.

Now, among those things which the Church has always preached and will never cease to preach is contained also that infallible statement by which we are taught that there is no salvation outside the Church. However, this dogma must be understood in that sense in which the Church herself understands it. For, it was not to private judgments that Our Savior gave for explanation those things that are contained in the deposit of faith, but to the teaching authority of the Church.

Now, in the first place, the Church teaches that in this matter there is question of a most strict command of Jesus Christ. For He explicitly enjoined on His apostles to teach all nations to observe all things whatsoever He Himself had commanded (Matt. 28: 19-20). (Emphasis added)
Comment: We teach all nations, all people, de facto what He has commanded.

Now, among the commandments of Christ, that one holds not the least place by which we are commanded to be incorporated by baptism into the Mystical Body of Christ, which is the Church, and to remain united to Christ and to His Vicar, through whom He Himself in a visible manner governs the Church on earth.
It is necessary de facto to be incorporated into the Church, the Mystical Body of Christ through the Baptism of water. It is necessary de facto for all people. This is the teaching of the dogma and Fr. Leonard Feeney.
Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.
Comment: Therefore no one will be saved; no one can be saved, who knowing about the Church (de jure) does not de facto enter it. This is  the teaching of Bro. Francis Maluf MICM and the St. Benedict Center.
Not only did the Savior command that all nations should enter the Church, but He also decreed the Church to be a means of salvation without which no one can enter the kingdom of eternal glory.
Comment: The Saviour commanded that all nations, all people should de facto enter the Catholic Church. This would mean all non Catholics in Boston then and now.

In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. This we see clearly stated in the Sacred Council of Trent, both in reference to the sacrament of regeneration and in reference to the sacrament of penance (, nn. 797, 807).(Emphasis added)
Comment: In certain circumstances( not the ordinary way), de jure, a person can be saved without the baptism of water. At the intellectual-theological level we can accept this. The person is saved de facto but the case is known only to God. So for humans it is always a de jure knowing.

The same in its own degree must be asserted of the Church; in as far as she is the general help to salvation. Therefore, that one may obtain eternal salvation, it is not always required that he be incorporated into the Church actually as a member, but it is necessary that at least he be united to her by desire and longing.
Comment: In certain circumstances; exceptionally, a person can be saved without the baptism of water. This is a de jure teaching. It is true theologically, when we speak and write about it.
De facto we do not know who specifically these people are.
However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God.
Comment: Those in invincible ignorance and other exceptions can be saved, de jure. De facto only God can judge specific cases.

These things are clearly taught in that dogmatic letter which was issued by the Sovereign Pontiff, Pope Pius XII, on June 29, 1943, (AAS, Vol. 35, an. 1943, p. 193 ff.). For in this letter the Sovereign Pontiff clearly distinguishes between those who are actually incorporated into the Church as members, and those who are united to the Church only by desire.
Comment: This is a de jure analysis.

Discussing the members of which the Mystical Body is-composed here on earth, the same august Pontiff says: "Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith, and who have not been so unfortunate as to separate themselves from the unity of the Body, or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed."
Comment: The conditions for de facto membership in the Church are mentioned here.

Toward the end of this same encyclical letter, when most affectionately inviting to unity those who do not belong to the body of the Catholic Church,
Comment: Here he invites pagans and non Catholics to de facto enter the Catholic Church for salvation.

he mentions those who "are related to the Mystical Body of the Redeemer by a certain unconscious yearning and desire," and these he by no means excludes from eternal salvation, but on the other hand states that they are in a condition "in which they cannot be sure of their salvation" since "they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church" (AAS, 1. c., p. 243).

Comment: He refers de jure to those members of the Catholic Church who are saved exceptionally. They are saved de facto, but known only to God. The ordinary means of salvation is having Catholic Faith and receiving the Baptism of water.

But it must not be thought that any kind of desire of entering the Church suffices that one may be saved. It is necessary that the desire by which one is related to the Church be animated by perfect charity. Nor can an implicit desire produce its effect, unless a person has supernatural faith: "For he who comes to God must believe that God exists and is a rewarder of those who seek Him" (Heb. 11:6). The Council of Trent declares (Session VI, chap. 8): "Faith is the beginning of man's salvation, the foundation and root of all justification, without which it is impossible to please God and attain to the fellowship of His children" (Denzinger, n. 801).
Comment: This is a de jure analysis of the requirements for salvation among the exceptions e.g. those with implicit desire, perfect charity etc.Also it indicates that there are limitations to any desire or an implicit desire for salvation.

With these wise words he reproves both those who exclude from eternal salvation all united to the Church only by implicit desire,
Comment: He de jure ‘reproves those who exclude from eternal salvation all united to the Church only by implicit desire’ and de facto not known to us.

and those who falsely assert that men can be saved equally well in every religion (cf. Pope Pius IX, Allocution, , in , n. 1641 ff.; also Pope Pius IX in the encyclical letter, , in , n. 1677).
Comment: He reproves all those who de jure ‘assert that men can be saved equally well in every religion’.
This part of the Letter referred to doctrine and the dogma.

Now begins the reference to disobedience and discipline.

From what has been said it is evident that those things which are proposed in the periodical , fascicle 3, as the genuine teaching of the Catholic Church are far from being such and are very harmful both to those within the Church and those without.
Comment: Here is a criticism of those who claim that de facto there are exceptions to salvation and de jure there are no exceptions like an implicit desire. This is in keeping with Sacred Tradition. It is in accord with the dogma Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Based on information from the Archbishop he also assumes that this is the position of the St. Benedict Center. Time would prove otherwise.

From these declarations which pertain to doctrine, certain conclusions follow which regard discipline and conduct, and which cannot be unknown to those who vigorously defend the necessity by which all are bound' of belonging to the true Church and of submitting to the authority of the Roman Pontiff and of the Bishops "whom the Holy Ghost has placed . . . to rule the Church" (Acts 20:28). Hence, one cannot understand how the St. Benedict Center can consistently claim to be a Catholic school and wish to be accounted such, and yet not conform to the prescriptions of canons 1381 and 1382 of the Code of Canon Law, and continue to exist as a source of discord and rebellion against ecclesiastical authority and as a source of the disturbance of many consciences.
Comment: The above paragraphs refer to disobedience of the St. Benedict Center to the Archbishop of Boston. They were needed to follow the doctrinal teachings of the Archbishop and the Jesuit Rector of Boston College. The Cardinal assumed the latter were faithful. Time would prove otherwise.
The excommunication would be lifted by the Vatican without the need for Fr. Feeney to change his teaching.
Two of the communities he founded would be accepted into the Catholic Church with canonical status and affirming the dogma.

Furthermore, it is beyond understanding how a member of a religious Institute, namely Father Feeney, presents himself as a "Defender of the Faith," and at the same time does not hesitate to attack the catechetical instruction proposed by lawful authorities, and has not even feared to incur grave sanctions threatened by the sacred canons because of his serious violations of his duties as a religious, a priest, and an ordinary member of the Church.
Comment. The Cardinal is critical of the disobedience of Fr. Leonard Feeney to the Archbishop. The Cardinal has never personally met Fr.Leonard Feeney.. The confusion is largely based on the information given to him by the Archbishop, through opinions and articles.

Finally, it is in no wise to be tolerated that certain Catholics shall claim for themselves the right to publish a periodical, for the purpose of spreading theological doctrines, without the permission of competent Church authority, called the "" which is prescribed by the sacred canons.
Comment : An issue of disobedience to the Archbishop based on the information given to him.

Therefore, let them who in grave peril are ranged against the Church seriously bear in mind
Comment: He assumes that it is Fr. Feeney, who personally did not defend himself. Since Fr.Feeney believed that he was affirming the dogma, an infallible, ex cathedra teaching.

that after "Rome has spoken" they cannot be excused even by reasons of good faith. Certainly, their bond and duty of obedience toward the Church is much graver than that of those who as yet are related to the Church "only by an unconscious desire." Let them realize that they are children of the Church, lovingly nourished by her with the milk of doctrine and the sacraments, and hence, having heard the clear voice of their Mother, they cannot be excused from culpable ignorance, and therefore to them apply without any restriction that principle: submission to the Catholic Church and to the Sovereign Pontiff is required asnecessary for salvation.

Comment: It is assumed here that Fr. Feeney was not faithful to the Holy Father and the Archbishop of Boston. Time would prove that they were in accord with the dogma. The newspapers reported that the Catholic Church has changed its teaching on the dogma outside the church no salvation. There was no clarification from the Archbishop.
This Letter was public three years after it was received.
The Archbishops of Boston and many of the Jesuits ( even today) have rejected the Catholic teaching according to the Councils and the popes.

In sending this letter, I declare my profound esteem, and remain,
Your Excellency's most devoted. Cardinal Marchetti-Selvaggiani.A. Ottaviani, Assessor.(Private); Holy Office, 8 Aug., 1949.
Comment: Vatican Council II (1965) would affirm the Letter and say ‘all people’ need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation. (Ad Gentes 7). All people at the de facto level. While Lumen Gentium 16 refers to the extraordinary way (de jure) (Ad Gentes 7, -de facto, Lumen Gentium 16-de jure)
The Catechism of the Catholic Church number 1257 on Baptism says the Church knows of no way to eternal beatitude other than the baptism of water and Catholic Faith. This is the general, ordinary means. However CCC also says God is not bound to the Sacraments.(Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water are needed de facto by all. However people can be saved without Baptism -de jure).
The Letter refers to this teaching as a dogma and not just a doctrine. The Councils and popes held an understanding of this dogma NOT as the Archbishop of Boston but - Fr. Leonard Feeney and Bro. Francis Maluf MICM.
The Letter was sent keeping Sacred Tradition in mind.
The first half of the Letter referred to the dogma and the second half to disobedience to the Bishop. The first part to doctrine and the second part to discipline.

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CATHOLIC PROFESSOR WHO SAID ALL JEWS IN BOSTON NEED TO CONVERT, DIES

CATHOLIC PROFESSOR WHO SAID ALL JEWS IN BOSTON NEED TO CONVERT, DIES


St. Maximillian Kolbe once said that if your religious superior teaches heresy you do not have to be obedient to him. If you are obedient, St. Alphonsus Ligouri would say it is a mortal sin. He even says do not go to receive the Sacraments from your Superior. Disobedient- this is exactly what Bro. Francis Malus M.I.C.M was when he affirmed Catholic dogma and opposed the Jesuit Rector of Boston College, USA. Of course, he was expelled from the faculty as a professor. Bro. Francis died on Sept 5. His funeral Mass was held  Thursday (Sept.10).


A disciple of Fr. Leonard Feeney and Superior of the community Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Benedict Center, NH, he taught the Catholic dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. His message was de facto all people needed to enter the Catholic Church, for salvation, with no exceptions. Everyone in Boston needed to be Catholic.


Opposed by the Rector of Boston College and the Cardinal Archbishop of the diocese, it was assumed wrongly that Bro. Francis was teaching – de jure (in principle, at the theological and intellectual level) there were no exceptions to salvation e.g. baptism of desire etc.


Prohibitions were placed by the Archbishop on St. Benedict Center. The issue was Catholic doctrine. Or, so it was said.


The Vatican issued a Letter addressed to Cardinal Richard Cushing the Archbishop of Bishop (1949). The Letter affirmed ‘the infallible teaching’ and ‘the dogma’- as taught ex cathedra by the Council of Florence and many other Councils and popes. All Jews in Boston de facto needed to convert. De jure there could be exceptions (implicit faith etc), known only to God. Bro. Francis was not in heresy.


However there was no going back to Boston College for him.


Since the Letter criticized the St. Benedict Center for being disobedient to the Archbishop.


Criticism was based on material and explanations sent to the Vatican by the Archbishop.


Secular newspapers reported that the Vatican had condemned the St. Benedict Center for heresy. False.


The newspapers reported that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy. False. It was for disobedience. It was lifted during his lifetime.


It was reported incorrectly that the baptism of desire and implicit faith was a de facto exception to the rule that all non-Catholics needed to convert for salvation.


The propaganda continued. Vatican Council II, Nostra Aetate it was said changed Church teaching on the need for all non Catholics to convert. Even though there was no mention of this change in Nostra Aetate. Instead Ad Gentes 7 maintains ‘all people’ need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation. The Archbishop read the newspapers. He remained silent.


He had placed St. Benedict Center under interdict. Now the Vatican was supporting Bro. Francis and Fr. Feeney on Catholic doctrine. For three years he did not make the Letter known. Now the Vatican was asking him to do so.


The Letter was made public.


However the condemnations continued in the press. There was no apology from the Archbishop and the Jesuits. The latter had expelled Fr. Feeney from the community.


Today the secular and ‘Catholic’ media still refer to the ‘strict interpretation ‘of the dogma. They assume there can be two interpretations of a dogma. The original and the one they created mixing the de facto and de jure level.


Heretics accused Bro. Francis of heresy. They said he did not accept the ‘Vatican Council II reforms’. They never specified which Church document mentioned these ‘reforms’.


They accused him of being a traditionalist. Implying, those who go for Mass in the vernacular, like many of us, reject the teaching of the Church, Bro.Francis, the Bible and Jesus (John 3:5).


Expelled from Boston College he was never to return there as a guest. He could not be invited by the St. Thomas More Law Society, a Catholic pro life student organisation in Boston College. Neither can this small group, affirm the Catholic dogma. The students would be expelled in their leftist ‘equal opportunity employer’ university with an intolerant Diversity Office.


Bro. Francis’ work continues with the communities he leaves behind. Men and women. Two of them have already been granted canonical status by the Catholic Church.

Karl Keating’s Catholic Answers runs away from six questions

Karl Keating’s Catholic Answers runs away from six questions


Closes uncomfortable thread on website.

Apologist Karl Keating’s website Catholic Answers ' Administrator, who was participating in a discussion, was asked if he could answer six questions relevant to the subject. Members, including the administrator, had already posted on the Forum, comments and questions.

The questions and answers developed on the thread ' Vatican Council II says outside the Church no Salvation’.

The URL of the thread now disabled was http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=376928. ).

The thread quoted a passage from the website of Eternal Word Television Network (EWTN). ) It is Fr. Most’s controversial article The Church and Salvation. (On EWTN to access the article click first on  Faith then TeachingsThe Catholic Church and then The Church and Salvation )
The thread also included an analysis of the CDF (Holy Office) Letter to the Archbishop of Boston 1949 relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney.
The questions were:-
(With Reference to the EWTN article)
1) Where is the proof (Roman Catholic Magisterial document) which says that Brother Francis Maluf MICM and Fr. Leonard Feeney say/said de jure that there are no exceptions (i.e. invincible ignorance, baptism of desire etc,) to salvation?
2) Where is the proof that the Catholic Church teaches that de facto there are exceptions to salvation as suggested by the EWTN website in Fr. William Most’s article?
EWTN suggests Bro. Francis Maluf MICM, Superior, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Richmond, New Hampshire, USA was in heresy. Bro. Francis expired this Sept.5, 2009.
It would also mean two other communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney, granted canonical status by the Catholic Church, and are also in heresy. EWTN has posted the Letter of the Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office to Archbishop Richard J. Cushing (August 8, 1949) on the Internet. Yet no where does the Letter say that Fr. Leonard Feeney was excommunicated for heresy. This is suggested by Fr. William Most on the EWTN website.
Bro. Francis Maluf 96 was one of the original professors who were dismissed by the Jesuit Rector of Boston College. He was supported by Fr. Leonard Feeney and the issue became public.
The Letter of the Holy Office supported Fr. Leonard Feeney over Catholic doctrine. It did not condemn him as EWTN asserts.
The Letter also referred to the dogma. The infallible teaching.
The dogma- according to Church Councils and popes says that all people need de facto to enter the Catholic Church through Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water. All people- means, de facto no exceptions. This has always been the dogma of extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is an ecumenical point we have in common with the Orthodox Churches.
No more, after 60 years and with clear websites of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary and the St. Benedict Center, USA, can we say that de jure (de iure) Fr. Leonard Feeney and Bro. Francis Maluf believed there could  be no exceptions(the exceptions include invincible ignorance, baptism of desire etc.)
Otherwise it is slander and calumny. The website of the Richmond, NH Catholic community is clear on doctrine.
The websites of the St. Benedict’s Abbey (Men), Still River and St. Benedict Center (Women) express their Catholic beliefs. They are communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney in the diocese of Worcester USA. They uphold the original teachings of their founder- and the infallible, ex cathedra dogma of the Council of Florence.
De jure there are exceptions. De facto there are none.
EWTN is saying that Br. Francis Maluf at St. Benedict Center in 1949 (and now) did not accept that de jure there were exceptions and is in heresy?!
The following four general questions related to Catholic Mission doctrine, were also asked of Catholic Answers.
1) Does the Catholic Church teach that non-Catholic religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam etc) are not paths to salvation (to go to Heaven and to avoid Hell)? Yes or No.
2) Does the Catholic Church teach that Catholic Faith and Baptism are needed for all people in general, barring the exceptions, for salvation? Yes or No.
3) When I meet a Jew in Boston I can tell him that the Catholic Church teaches that he needs Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water to go to Heaven and avoid Hell? Yes or No.
4) The Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston 1949 said de facto Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water are needed for all people with no exceptions( ‘dogma’, ‘infallible' teaching). However de jure non Catholics can be saved through the baptism of desire and implicit faith? Yes or No
Apologist Karl Keating has answered the first two questions (1&2), in another context, with the answer YES.
The third question refers to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. De facto all people; everyone, needs Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation and there are no exceptions.It is heresy and a mortal sin to deny this ex cathedra teaching.
Question four (4) refers to the Letter 1949 in which the CDF supported Fr. Leonard Feeney on the Catholic dogma. The Letter was critical of him and the St. Benedict Center for not being obedient to the Archbishop, who it was believed at that time, was faithful to the dogma. The first half of the Letter focuses on the dogma. The second half on discipline.
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Sept.22, 2009,

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