Wednesday, February 3, 2010

NOVUS ORDO PRIEST AT ST.MARY MAJORS SAYS EVERY CATHOLIC NEEEDS TO BELIEVE IN AN EX CATHEDRA DOGMA

Father Silvistrini Emilio celebrates Holy Mass in Italian at the papal basilica of St. Mary Majors in Rome. I spoke with him on Jan.26 in the sacristy. He explained the conditions for receiving the Eucharist and said those who do not have faith should not be given the Eucharist.


He spoke about ex cathedra dogmas being truths. They are infallible truths that are obligatory for all Catholics.

Here is an ex cathedra dogma.

THE EX CATHEDRA DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
• “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215.)
• “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.)
• “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)- from the website Catholicism.org and “No Salvation outside the Church”: Link List, the Three Dogmatic Statements Regarding EENS) : http://nosalvationoutsideofthecatholicchurch.blogspot.com/
This dogma was never affirmed in public by the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing in the controversy over Fr. Leonard Feeney. It was also never affirmed publicly by Cardinal Bernard Law when he was the Archbishop of Boston (1984- 2002). He is now the archpriest at the Basilica of St. Mary Majors in Rome (Tel: (+39) 06.698.86800, fax (+39) 06.698.86817 e-mail: sagrestiasmm@org.va)
Instead the media was allowed to interpret Vatican Council II as a break from the ex cathedra teaching extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It was said that those who are in invincible ignorance or have a good conscience or have a baptism of desire, collectively called the exceptions, do not have to convert as the dogma says. Yet no where in Vatican Council II is it said that the exceptions (to the ordinary way which is the baptism of water) are:
1. The ordinary means of salvation.
2. They refer to de facto instead of de jure salvation.
3. It has to be interpreted as a break from Sacred Tradition.
4. We can judge specifically who has the baptism of desire, a good conscience or is in invincible ignorance.
5. The exceptions are to be interpreted not as the Church Fathers, St.Thomas Aquinas and Pope Pius XII taught but something new.(See Lumen Gentium 16 text below)
6. Neither in the much publicised Nostra Aetate, Vatican Council II is it said that Judaism, Islam, Christian communities and the Orthodox Church are the ordinary means of salvation.

Instead Vatican Council II indicates that millions of members of these religions in modern cities, who are educated and aware of the Catholic Church, are oriented to Hell at the time of death (Ad Gentes7). It also means those ex Catholics who have left the Catholic Church to marry a non Catholic are on their way to Hell at the time of death.

If Vatican Council II did say that non Catholics can be saved in general in their religion or their religions are paths to salvation or are the ordinary means of salvation or that they are all saved with implicit faith then it would be contradicting an ex cathedra teaching. So it would mean the Council was fallible. Then Vatican Council II would be a fallible teaching of the ordinary Magisterium-but there is no evidence to indicate this.
There is no text which indicates this falsehood even though the Jewish Left media continues with this lie; their political position.

So all false interpretations of Vatican Council II are just interpretations. This includes those interpretations of the Council which do not agree with the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

When I spoke to Don Silvistrini Emilio I only referred to the ex cathedra dogma of the Immaculate Conception of Our lady. We did not speak about the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Neither did I bring up the issue of Cardinal Bernard Law.
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Lumen Gentium 16: Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.(126); But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things,(127) and as Saviour wills that all men be saved.(128) Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.(19*) Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life…