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IL CONCILIO VATICANO II DICE TUTTI I MUSULMANI ED EBREI A ROMA SONO SUL VIA D'INFERNO




Il Concilio Vaticano II indica che tutti i musulmani ed ebrei a Roma sono sul via d’inferno. La Bibbia, la Chiesa e il Concilio Vaticano II dicono che gli ebrei e i musulmani devono convertire in Chiesa Cattolica per andare a cielo. Tutti. Ad Gentes 7 dice che la Fede Cattolica e il battesimo dell’acqua ha bisogno tutti per salvezza. Tutto significa tutto senza le eccezioni.



È dunque necessario che tutti si convertano al Cristo conosciuto attraverso la predicazione della Chiesa, ed a lui e alla Chiesa, suo corpo, siano incorporati attraverso il battesimo (39). Cristo stesso infatti, « ribadendo espressamente la necessità della fede e del battesimo (cfr. Mc 16,16; Gv 3,5), ha confermato simultaneamente la necessità della Chiesa, nella quale gli uomini entrano, per così dire, attraverso la porta del battesimo…- Ad Gentes 7,Concilio Vaticano II



Ad Gentes 7 inoltre dice che coloro sanno circa Gesù e la Chiesa Cattolica ma non entrano sono sul senso a inferno. In Italia i musulmani e gli ebrei sanno circa Gesù e la Chiesa Cattolica. È un peccato mortale di fede quando non entrano nella chiesa cattolica.



non possono salvarsi quegli uomini i quali, pur sapendo che la Chiesa cattolica è stata stabilita da Dio per mezzo di Gesù Cristo come istituzione necessaria, tuttavia rifiutano o di entrare o di rimanere in essa…-Ad Gentes 7,Concilio Vaticano II



Perciò non possono salvarsi quegli uomini, i quali, pur non ignorando che la Chiesa cattolica è stata fondata da Dio per mezzo di Gesù Cristo come necessaria, non vorranno entrare in essa o in essa perseverare…- Lumen Gentium 14,Concilio Vaticano II.



Così chieda al vostro sacerdote di parrocchia perché lo non fa parlare a questo proposito? Tanta gente sta andando a inferno e non parla o non scrive a questo proposito?





VATICAN COUNCIL II SAYS ALL CHRISTIANS (NON CATHOLICS) IN ROME ARE GOING TO HELL

Contrary to what your parish priest has been saying Vatican Council II indicates that all Christians (non Catholics) in Rome are on the way to Hell. So get this message across to the people so that they can conduct Catholic Mission and Evangelization based on the truth. Do not hide it from Catholics in the parishes that the Bible, the Church and of course Vatican Council II indicate that Christians need to convert into the Catholic Church to go to Heaven. All of them. The Council says this is in two important places.In Ad Gentes 7 it says all people need Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water for salvation. All means everyone with no exceptions.

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.

Then Ad Gentes 7 also says those who know about Jesus and the Catholic Church and yet do not enter are on the way to Hell. In Rome, Christians (Orthodox, Protestants, Evangelicals, Jehowahs Witnesses and other sects know about Jesus and the Catholic Church. It is a mortal sin of faith when they do not enter the Catholic Church.

Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it.-Ad Gentes 7

Vatican Council II Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

So ask your parish priest why has he not spoken on this subject? Is he trying to protect someone? So many people are going to Hell and he does not speak or write about it? Is he protecting himself?



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Catholic Answers Newsletter (Hot Topics - Catholic Answers Forums - 100504) once again rejects the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

The Catholic Answers Forum Newsletter (Hot Topics - Catholic Answers Forums - 100504) once again rejects the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
As in the past Catholic Answers suggests that
1.There are two interpretations of the dogma.
2.They reject the interpretation  held for centuries that everyone with no exception needs to be visible members of the Catholic Church to be saved( to avoid Hell).
3. They interpret the baptism of desire(implicit faith) as referring to de facto salvation and so opposed to the dogma(the interpretation of Fr.Hans Kung,William Most etc).
4.They suggest Vatican Council II is oppossed to the ex cathedra dogma and so the popes were not infallible ex cathedra.
5.They do not accept implicit faith ( baptism of desire etc) as referring to a concept only, 'in certain circumstances'(Letter of the Holy Office 1949) and known only to God.

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Most probably you have read in the newspaper about a heroic effort to save someone’s life. Perhaps it was a story something like this:

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A little girl was playing ball with her brother. The ball rolled into the street. The little girl went after it. A bystander, a teenager, saw the girl running into the street. He also saw a car approaching her at some considerable speed. His moment of instant decision was that the only way the girl could be saved would be if he dashed into the street into the path of the car and pushed the girl out of the way of its onrushing speed. Without hesitation or fear for his own life, he proceeded to do so. The happy-sad story ended only too predictable: The girl is saved; the teenager is killed in his successful effort to rescue her.
) What if the teenager in the story were James who did not believe in God. What might his heroic action mean?

2) What if the hero were John , a practicing Catholic. Might his rescue mean something than James’s?

3) If we might grant that James and John were acting morally in this situation, then what difference did it make that John, was a Catholic?

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#2 Apr 23, '10, 6:04 am

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Let me say first and foremost, that I might very well be wrong... But...

As I read Matthew 25:31 - 46, when Jesus comes in glory to judge the living and the dead He will put much more emphisis on what we've done than how we worshipped. I especially feel verse 37 cuts to the chase... The righteous (both James ond John in your story) will ask when they jumped in front of a car for Him and His answer is clear.

Of course Purgatory may be wildly different experiances for these two young people... But that's for another thread

But again... I could be wrong.

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#3 Apr 23, '10, 6:21 am

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He will put much more emphasis on what we've done than how we worshipped.

True. However I would phrase it differently: He will put much more emphasis on how we loved than how we worshipped.

In particular, how we loved the seemingly unlovable, the forgotten and downtrodden of society.

The Rule of Saint Benedict tells us to treat each visitor to a monastery as if it were Christ Himself turning up at our doorstep in person. Basically that is what Matthew 25:31-46 is saying as well: when you love others especially the downtrodden, you love Christ.

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 Apr 23, '10, 6:24 am

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One must first ask themselves if they believe in the teachings of Jesus? Did Jesus speak the truth? If so, what did He have to say about the matter?

John 3:5 - Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." ... this refers to baptism.

John 6:53 - So Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you." ... this refers to the Eucharist found only in the Catholic faith.

That said, those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation (CCC 847).

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#5 Apr 23, '10, 8:11 am

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Originally Posted by Sir Knight

One must first ask themselves if they believe in the teachings of Jesus? Did Jesus speak the truth? If so, what did He have to say about the matter?

John 3:5 - Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." ... this refers to baptism.

John 6:53 - So Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you." ... this refers to the Eucharist found only in the Catholic faith.

That said, those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation (CCC 847).

I agree, however to put a little twist to this scenario, what if John (Catholic) was a practicing Gay person(or in a state of Mortal sin) died saving a life? Would he go to Hell?

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#6 Apr 23, '10, 9:41 am

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I agree, however to put a little twist to this scenario, what if John (Catholic) was a practicing Gay person(or in a state of Mortal sin) died saving a life? Would he go to Hell?

God Bless

I don't think we can say. God is infinitely just, and infinitely merciful.

My own leaning is toward the latter in the example you mention.

I actually don't think we can say with certainty that anyone is in Hell.


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I agree, however to put a little twist to this scenario, what if John (Catholic) was a practicing Gay person(or in a state of Mortal sin) died saving a life? Would he go to Hell?

All it takes is one mortal sin to land somebody in hell. On the other hand, scripture does tell us that charity toward others atones for a multitude of sins.

The bottom line is that I don't think we can know for sure one way or the other and it is not out place to second guess God.

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I actually don't think we can say with certainty that anyone is in Hell.

We can not say with certainty that any one individual is in hell but Jesus did tell us that MANY will go there compared to the FEW that will be saved.
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We can not say with certainty that any one individual is in hell but Jesus did tell us that MANY will go there compared to the FEW that will be saved.

Sorry English is not my first language, by "anyone" I meant we cannot say for certain if any one individual is Hell-bound or not (or for the already deceased, in Hell).

We can safely assume the place is populated though. We just can't say by whom.

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#10 Apr 23, '10, 3:46 pm

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If a person dies with mortal sin on his soul he/she descends immediately into hell. Of course, we can not know whether God gave them the grace of perfect contrition for their sins in the final instant of their life, but it would be presumptuous to assume that is the case.

And, to answer the first question, of course it matters what we believe and how we worship. The Church has several times infallibly declared as a dogma that outside the Church there is no salvation. For anyone living in the modern world the invincible ignorance clause pretty much goes out the window, because we have access to all the information we need in order to make a judgment about whether the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ or not. We have an obligation to seek the truth, it is not an option. I would also say on a more personal note that I don't really see how a person outside the Church could maintain a life in the state of grace even if they are validly baptized. From my own personal experience I would have definitely been on the road of perdition if it was not for the Sacrament of Confession and I think I can translate my experience to many others. After all, we are impaired by original sin and are inclined to evil, so without the actual graces of the Sacraments how would we maintain sanctifying grace?

As I have understood it morally good acts are only meritorious if they are done while we are in the friendship of God, that is a state of grace. Am I wrong?

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1 Apr 23, '10, 5:54 pm

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Most probably you have read in the newspaper about a heroic effort to save someone’s life. Perhaps it was a story something like this:

1) What if the teenager in the story were James who did not believe in God. What might his heroic action mean?

2) What if the hero were John , a practicing Catholic. Might his rescue mean something than James’s?

3) If we might grant that James and John were acting morally in this situation, then what difference did it make that John, was a Catholic?

While this act of heroism was this person's last act, it would not necessarily be the deciding factor in his salvation. James would still not believe in God so that act was a purely selfless act but only for the sake of another. James would not be seeking the approval of a God that he does not believe in. So, while James did act morally it results from his relative views on morality not based on the objective truth which we know to be the ineffable God.

John, the practicing Catholic, might have chosen that act of selfless behavior out of a life filled with the presence of God. Or maybe not. We don't know. Was John in the state of grace at the time of his death? Was that act committed out of a perfect love for God and therefore remitting any mortal sin John may have had? We cannot know this. Only God can know for sure. Of course John would have all the necessary "tools" for salvation if he was a practicing Catholic but did he use them?

James and John would both go to the judgment seat of God as we all will. God knows the interior of their hearts better than they know their own. That final act would reflect something in their behavior for sure. But what is that something? Only God knows..............that's why we're not God. We cannot answer your question.........................teachcc d

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If a person dies with mortal sin on his soul he/she descends immediately into hell. Of course, we can not know whether God gave them the grace of perfect contrition for their sins in the final instant of their life, but it would be presumptuous to assume that is the case.

And, to answer the first question, of course it matters what we believe and how we worship. The Church has several times infallibly declared as a dogma that outside the Church there is no salvation. For anyone living in the modern world the invincible ignorance clause pretty much goes out the window, because we have access to all the information we need in order to make a judgment about whether the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ or not. We have an obligation to seek the truth, it is not an option. I would also say on a more personal note that I don't really see how a person outside the Church could maintain a life in the state of grace even if they are validly baptized. From my own personal experience I would have definitely been on the road of perdition if it was not for the Sacrament of Confession and I think I can translate my experience to many others. After all, we are impaired by original sin and are inclined to evil, so without the actual graces of the Sacraments how would we maintain sanctifying grace?

As I have understood it morally good acts are only meritorious if they are done while we are in the friendship of God, that is a state of grace. Am I wrong?

Outstanding job, very well done... I couldn't agree with you more. How can we say that the Lord will not judge us by how we worshipped? This borders on the protestant theory of justification alone...

It is not for us to judge another man's soul. However, with that being said, as Catholics we have the teachings of the Church and I would find it difficult to make assumptions when we have the truth laid out for us. Salvation is nothing to be gambling with, and when the Church teaches that there is no salvation outside the Church, we should not be scrupulous in this matter. We need to thank God that we have the truth and the necessary means for salvation, and not speculate on whether someone meets the criteria of the invincably ignorant.

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#13 Apr 23, '10, 10:43 pm

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The Church has several times infallibly declared as a dogma that outside the Church there is no salvation.

Christ’s Church knew from the beginning that non-Catholics could be saved:

Pope St Clement knew that non-Catholics could be saved from the beginning, for he wrote in about 95 A.D. to the Church in Corinth: "Those who repented for their sins, appeased God in praying and received salvation, even though they were aliens to God." [Catholic Apologetics Today, 1986, Fr William G Most, p 145].

Extra ecclesiam, nulla salus (literally, “outside the Church, there is no salvation”). Some people have wished to understand this saying in the most literal sense: that is, that the person who is not formally a practicing Catholic cannot be saved. The Church has condemned such an interpretation (cf. Denzinger-Schönmetzer, 3870-3873).

“Familiarity” with Catholicism does not necessarily mean that such a state translates into knowing that the Catholic Church is founded by Christ to teach, rule and sanctify mankind. Anyone who knowingly rejects Christ’s means of salvation (His Church) knowingly rejects Him, and condemns himself.

In CCC #848, “the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338

[The reference 338 includes Heb 11:6 saying that God rewards those who believe and diligently seek Him; and 1 Cor 9:16 in which Paul says “woe to me if I do not preach the gospel.”]

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@Abu: I know that the standard interpretation of EENS is not that strictest, most literal sense. But the Church allows its members to hold to the strict sense, which we know from the fact of father Feeney and his followers and the agreement made between him and the Holy See. It is an allowed opinion. I do not personally hold to the Feeneyite position, because I think Church history proves that this interpretation is not the standard, traditional interpretation.

But we shouldn't play Russian roulette with souls and we must evangelize those who are formally outside the Church because they are deprived of the ordinary means of salvation. For instance, as I mentioned, they are deprived of the Sacrament of Confession. When it is difficult to live the Christian life even when we have access to all of the Sacraments and all of the grace of the Church, would it not be practically impossible without the Sacraments?

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As you have seen the Church does NOT allow anyone to believe that only Catholics may be saved. It is in no sense an allowed "opinion". Never does dogma or defined doctrine allow of contrary "opinions".

She specifically teaches in Vatican II, Lumen Gentium #15: “Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do His will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience – those too may achieve eternal salvation.”

That it is much harder, there can be no doubt, and as agreed we all have the apostolate of evangelisation and reevangelisation.

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MARK SHEA VATICAN COUNCIL II SAYS OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION

4/27/10 
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Dear Mark,

Praised be Jesus and Our Lady

Teaching Mark Shea about the Catholic Faith he publicly rejects and correcting him in his errors on extra ecclesiam nulla salus is a Spiritual Act of Mercy.

This is what Rasha was doing. She was writing on the Catholic Faith and was doing it without earning money or making a living like you (Mark) do.

You’ve rejected Fr. Leonard Feeney’s affirmation of the dogma and she quoted you the ex cathedra teaching of Pope Eugene. You reject them both calling it hoping-for-the-damnation-of-as-many-as-possible way. Then you call her obsessive.

I posted the following report which you allowed on the blog for sometime and then decided to close down communication on this subject.

VATICAN COUNCIL II SAYS ALL CHRISTIANS (NON CATHOLICS) IN ROME ARE GOING TO HELL

You say the subject is  EENS. Oh no! The subject is Vatican Council II which you have been distorting all this time.

1. You interpret Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance etc) according to Fr. Hans Kung. I understand it must be difficult for a Catholic apologist who makes a living for his family based on his writing on the Catholic Faith.

2. You reject Ad Gentes saying that all Jews and Muslims in Rome are on the way to Hell. Since even with your non traditional interpretation of Lumen Gentium 16 there is no way out of this one!

3. I sent a post it said that there is no de facto baptism of desire that we can know of. You held it back. It’s contrary to your assertion that we can judge de facto cases of baptism of desire. This is a first class heresy which you have been repeating in the two articles you have written on this subject one for Inside Catholic.com( reviewed by Bill Strom on Catholic Vox) and the other for a sister publication associated with this website.

Its heresy the Franciscan priest says (in the post you rejected) since Vatican Council II was not the first time when invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire were mentioned. The three popes and Councils who gave us the ex cathedra, infallible teaching were aware of the exceptions (implicit faith).They did not interpret them as referring to de facto salvation. So who gives you and Fr. Hans Kung the right to break from this tradition and contradict an ex cathedra teaching?

In ‘certain circumstances’ says the Letter of the Holy Office (1949) a person can have implicit faith and be saved- but this would only be known to God. You and I cannot judge such cases. So how you refer to implicit faith as de facto rejecting the dogma.

4. Then you keeping writing that you accept the ex cathedra dogma. The meaning has been changed its meaning and you accept whatever you mean. For centuries the Church taught that everyone needs to enter the Catholic Church through the baptism of water and Catholic Faith to avoid Hell. You criticize Rasha for reminding you about it.

This is Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) and the Catechism 0f the Catholic Faith (836).’All’ need to enter the Church for salvation (to avoid Hell).

It’s time for you to stick to your Rule 4 and 6 of the forum - and also that of the teaching of the Catholic Church on Vatican Council II and outside the Church there is no salvation. Your report above Introduction to the Corporal and Spiritual Works of Mercy is positively Protestant. You then bring in the Catholic element of Corporal and Spiritual Works of Mercy.

Your separation of Jesus from the Church should be pleasing to your Jewish friends. Since it would mean that they are saved implicitly by Jesus in Judaism and so do not have to convert. You interpret implicit faith anyway as saving the majority of non-Catholics.

This distortion will not be a threat to your income with charges of anti-Semitism. Your job is assured at the cost of changing the faith. Please do not distort the Catholic Faith to please influential American non Catholics.

Please Mark, don’t re cycle some of that old stuff, which you do, before someone is tempted to take you to court for mocking, distorting and spreading misinformation about the Catholic faith.

I write this aware it is a Spiritual Act of Mercy to admonish the sinner and to instruct the ignorant.

Lionel