Sunday, October 17, 2010

FR.ANTHONY CEDAKA WOULD AGREE WITH FR. LEONARD FEENEY'S COMMUNITIES THAT THERE IS NO EXPLICIT BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF

Over the last few days I have been in 'discussion' on a forum-board .Once again a priest has quoted Fr.Cedaka.

: http://www.traditionalmass.org/images/articles/BaptDes-Proofed.pdf

Conclusion


All Catholics are obliged to adhere to the common teaching on baptism of blood and baptism of desire.


According to the norms outlined above, the Feeneyite position represents either theological error, error in Catholic doctrine or heresy.


Those Catholics who adhere to the Feeneyite position on baptism of desire and Those Catholics who adhere to the Feeneyite position on baptism of desire and baptism of blood commit a mortal sin against the faith.-Fr.Anthony Cekada
Response:


12. SUPPORTERS OF FR.LEONARD FEENEY SAY THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE

I could agree with them. It is true in a sense but it has to be clarified. Words could be used with precision.I would say they mean:

1.There is no explicit Baptism of desire (BOD).It cannot be external and seen.

2.There is no implicit baptism of desire (BOD).It cannot be known in principle in a particular time.

3.There is no BOD without the Sacraments.(So there could be a BOD with the Sacrament).

4.There is no explicit BOD without the Sacrament of the Baptism of water.

5.There is no implicit BOD without the Sacrament of the Baptism of water.

6.There is a BOD with the Sacrament of the Baptism of water known to us as a concept and something possible 'in certain circumstances' and known always only to God. - Updated Catholic Apologetics- extra ecclesiam nulla salus

On the website Catholicism.org there is a definition of the baptism of desire according to Fr.Leonard Feeney's community, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St.Benedict Centre,NH,USA.

It says the baptism of desire includes a genuine longing with perfect charity and it culminates with the baptism of water.

This is also the position of St.Thomas Aquinas who says if there is a man in the forest ignorant of the Gospel, God will send a preacher to him to tell him what to do or send someone to baptize him.

So it is dishonest to say that the supporters of Fr.Leonard Feeney reject the baptism of desire.

Explicitly, even Fr.Cedaka would agree that there is no baptism of desire that he knows of.

Implicitly, in principle even he and other SSPX priests would admit that in principle, theoretically, they do not know of any case in the present times or the possibility of any case in the future.

So they really are in agreement with the community of Fr.Leonard Feeney.
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Rev. Anthony Cekada - Biographical Information


Born in 1951, Anthony Cekada studied at De Sales Preparatory Seminary and St. Francis Seminary College in Milwaukee, graduating with a Bachelor's degree in Theology in 1973. He also studied organ and composition at the Wisconsin Conservatory of Music. Already discontent with the Vatican II changes, he entered the Cistercians of the Common Observance, a conservative monastic order.

In 1975 he entered St. Pius X Seminary in Ecêne, Switzerland, completed his studies, and was ordained to the priesthood by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1977.

Following his ordination, Father Cekada taught seminarians at St. Joseph's House of Studies Armada, Michigan, and St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary, Ridgefield, Connecticut.

From 1979 to 1989 he resided in Oyster Bay Cove, New York, where he did pastoral and administrative work, and edited the traditionalist publication The Roman Catholic. During the same period, he travelled on weekends to offer the traditional Mass in traditional churches and missions in New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota.

In 1989 Father Cekada moved to Cincinnati, where he now assists with pastoral work. He also offers the traditional Mass in Columbus and Milwaukee on weekends.

He has since devoted a considerable amount of time to research and writing. TAN Books published two of his works criticizing the post-Vatican II liturgical reform. One was a commentary and new translation for The Ottaviani Intervention, a key document in the history of the traditional movement. The other, The Problems with the Prayers of the Modern Mass, discusses the systematic omission of certain doctrines (hell, the soul, miracles, the true Church, etc.) from the Missal of Paul VI; it has sold nearly 15,000 copies at last count, and has been published in French, Italian, German and Dutch.

Father Cekada has also written two introductory booklets for newcomers to the traditional Mass: Welcome to the Traditional Latin Mass and Traditionalists, Infallibility and the Pope. Both are extremely popular and have achieved wide circulation, due to their succinct and scholarly treatment of the issues of the New Mass and the pope. Fr. Cekada's writings are available from articles online.

Once a month during the academic year Father Cekada travels to Brooksville, Florida where he teaches Canon Law, Liturgy, and Scripture at Most Holy Trinity Seminary.