Thursday, January 20, 2011

BLASPHEMOUS TALMUD IS TO BE TRANSLATED INTO ITALIAN : PROTOCOL TO BE SIGNED TOMORROW BY ITALIAN GOVERNMENT

The Talmud according to the daily Avvenire (20.01.2011) is to be translated into Italian for the first time. A protocol of understanding will be signed tomorrow Friday  it is reported, at the Palazzo Chigi, seat of the Italian government of the Prime Minister of Italy Silvio Berlusconi. It will be signed by the Italian Government and the Union of the Italian Jewish communities (Ucei). The plan, according to the report, in Avvenire consists in the translation from the Aramaic into Italian. The work over five years will be carried out in collaboration between the Jewish communities, the Italian Rabbinical College and the National Research Council (Cnr). The protocol will be signed by Gianni Letta undersecretary to the President of the Council of Ministers, Mariastella Gemini, minister of Education, Luciano Maiani, president of the Cnr, Renzo Gattegna, president of the Ucei, Riccardo Di Segni, director of the Italian rabbinical College.


The Avvenire report has been taken from the L’Osservatore Romano.


It may be mentioned that popes in the past had banned the Talmud and confiscated copies because of its blasphemy against Jesus and Our Lady.

In 1415, Pope Benedict XIII, who had convened the Tortosa disputation, issued a bull (which was destined, however, to remain inoperative) forbidding the Jews to read the Talmud, and ordering the destruction of all copies of it. Far more important were the charges made in the early part of the sixteenth century by the convert Johannes Pfefferkorn, the agent of the Dominicans. The result of these accusations was a struggle in which the emperor and the pope acted as judges, the advocate of the Jews being Johann Reuchlin, who was opposed by the obscurantists; and this controversy, which was carried on for the most part by means of pamphlets, became in the eyes of some a precursor of the Reformation.[42]

An unexpected result of this affair was the complete printed edition of the Babylonian Talmud issued in 1520 by Daniel Bomberg at Venice, under the protection of a papal privilege.[43] Three years later, in 1523, Bomberg published the first edition of the Jerusalem Talmud. After thirty years the Vatican, which had first permitted the Talmud to appear in print, undertook a campaign of destruction against it. On the New Year, Rosh Hashanah (September 9, 1553) the copies of the Talmud confiscated in compliance with a decree of the Inquisition were burned at Rome, in Campo dei Fiori (auto de fé). Other burnings took place in other Italian cities, as at Cremona in 1559. Censorship of the Talmud and other Hebrew works was introduced by a papal bull issued in 1554; five years later the Talmud was included in the first Index Expurgatorius; and Pope Pius IV commanded, in 1565, that the Talmud be deprived of its very name. The convention of referring to the work as "Shas" (shishah sidre Mishnah) instead of "Talmud" dates from this time.[44]

The first edition of the expurgated Talmud, on which most subsequent editions were based, appeared at Basel (1578–1581) with the omission of the entire treatise of 'Abodah Zarah and of passages considered inimical to Christianity, together with modifications of certain phrases. A fresh attack on the Talmud was decreed by Pope Gregory XIII (1575–85), and in 1593 Clement VIII renewed the old interdiction against reading or owning it.[citation needed] The increasing study of the Talmud in Poland led to the issue of a complete edition (Kraków, 1602-5), with a restoration of the original text; an edition containing, so far as known, only two treatises had previously been published at Lublin (1559–76). In 1707 some copies of the Talmud were confiscated in the province of Brandenburg, but were restored to their owners by command of Frederick, the first king of Prussia.[citation needed] A further attack on the Talmud took place in Poland (in what is now Ukrainian territory) in 1757, when Bishop Dembowski, at the instigation of the Frankists, convened a public disputation at Kamianets-Podilskyi, and ordered all copies of the work found in his bishopric to be confiscated and burned...-Wikipedia
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POPE AND CARDINAL CARLO MARTINI’S BOOKS ON DISPLAY TOGETHER IN SHOP WINDOW

Both authors do not mention Hell and claim Jews do not have to convert in the present times.

As you pass Collettis bookshop in front of St. Peters Basilica, the popes book Luce al Mondo (Light to the World) is on display prominenently. Also visible are books by Cardinal Carlo Martini.

Martini's whose writings have been described as scanda, and Pope Benedict XVI, are now in the same boat. ‘We are all in the same boat’ (Siamo Tutti Nella Stessa Barca) was the title of one of Martinis books. A reviewer in the magazine Il Settimanale di Padre Pio disagreed. He thought  Martini was in the boat described by Dante, to ferry the damned to Hell.

Luce al Mondo is a scandal. But so has been Cardinal Martini, and the pope, as Cardinal Ratzinger, for whatever reason, never checked him.

He allowed him to offer Mass freely. Martini continued with his dissent publicly, wrote books and continued a regular column in a leftist anti Catholic daily in Italy.

Now they are both selling their ‘wares’ together in the same shop window at the Vatican.

When Martini was critical of Church teachings on bioethics the Vatican responded by saying they knew of Martinis comments but did not want to start a controversy. And he could receive the Eucharist as normal and offer Mass as normal?

For Cardinal Ratzinger, there had been no trace of mortal sin or sacrilege of the Eucharist in Cardinal Martini. Or if there had been for him, he never mentioned it in public.

Now the pope himself in Luce al Mondo contradicts the Bible when he says Jews do not have to convert in the present times. He has also like Martini, rejected an infallible teaching, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence (extra ecclesiam nulla salus). For the pope this is not a mortal sin and neither does he consider his Mass a sacrilege.

Both authors are saying sin is not sin. Jews, and other non Catholics, do not have the Faith necessary for salvation and the authors are saying it is all right, they will go to Heaven in spite of that. To lack that Faith, means to die with Original Sin on their soul and mortal sins committed in that state and the authors are still saying they do not have to convert.

Both authors do not mention Hell with fire. The Catechism does not. The New Testament says Hell has fire and so does the Old (Isaiah 33).Our Lady at Fatima and many saints say Hell has fire that burns. So does the ex cathedra dogma Cantate Domino, Council of Florence.(1)

That Hell ‘has fire’ has been part of the ‘deposit of faith’ of the Church. That Jews do not have to convert is a ‘new revelation’ discovered by the authors. It has not been part of the deposit of the faith.

Both authors come from the same generation that made a common sense error on Vatican Council II. They interpret those saved in invincible ignorance etc (Lumen Gentium 16) as referring to explicit cases: particular cases, known to us humans.

Pope Benedict has even created a new theology around this error and expressed it in Luce al Mondo. He tells Peter Seewald that there is only one way of salvation implying Jews are saved in general through this one way and so they do not have to convert. They can be saved in this one way being in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire, not knowing Jesus and living as Jews in Judaism awaiting the Messiah.

Through this one way of salvation (Jesus and the Church) those Jews are saved who convert into the Catholic Church and also those Jews are saved in general, who do not convert, the vast majority of them.

In contrast to the pope and Cardinal Martini, Cantate Domino,  says there is one way of salvation, Jesus and the Church, and everyone needs to enter the Church, with no exception to receive this salvation.

Pope John Paul II in Dominus Iesus 20 also says there is one way of salvation and everyone needs to enter the Church, with no exception, to receive this salvation.

See the difference! It is the difference between light and darkness in the world.

Then follows the common sense problem. The mistake even a 10 year old can see through. The pope, in his one way of salvation, suggests he knows in particular of people saved in invincible ignorance etc (CCC 847, 848, LG 16). So he has included them all being saved in the ‘one way’. Yet Faith and reason tells us that we do not know a single case in the present time. Neither over the last 50 years.

Since we do not know of any such case why mention it, why include it in the pope’s ‘one way’? It’s a decoy. A straw man. It’s a rejection of the dogma Cantate Domino and Pope John Paul II’s Dominus Iesus.

It’s not part of the deposit of the faith. As a concept, in principle we can accept there could be people saved in invincible ignorance but de facto we do not know any case. De facto there is only one way of salvation and everyone needs to enter the Church to receive it. (Dominus Iesus 20, Cantate Domino etc).

May be the pope never realized it and was confused himself.

This is all Darkness to the World. A false theology on salvation. An open rebellion against the message of Jesus regarding Jews and salvation, no mention of Hell with fire and presenting new doctrines that people want to hear so that they can believe that sin is not sin and that they are all going to heaven.

The pope and Martinis books should sell well.

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“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.) Ex cathedra – from the website Catholicism.org (Emphasis added)