ITALIAN PRIEST SAYS IMMODESTY IS A SIN BUT WILL CONTINUE GIVING THE EUCHARIST TO THOSE DRESSED IMMODESTLY

Fr. Fernando the priest who celebrated Holy Mass in Italian at the Church Santi Protomartiri Romani , Via Aurelia, Rome said immodesty in clothes was a sin.

When I asked if he  would give the Eucharist to Catholics dressed immodestly, he gestured that he was helpless.

I was speaking with him in the sacristy.

The next few days he continued giving the Eucharist to Catholics immodestly dressed. I asked him if it was not a sin for a priest to give the Eucharist to persons immodestly dressed.He did not answer.

-Lionel Andrades

IMMODESTY IN ROMES CHURCHES
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/immodesty-in-romes-churches.html

Non Catholics in Goa were in invincible ignorance before St.Francis Xavier arrived so were already on the way to be saved- Fr.Massimo Morelli S.J, Vice Rector, Chiesa del Gesu, Rome.

Rev. Fr. Massimo Morelli S.J Vice Rector, Chiesa del Gesu, Rome said today morning that we do not know of any case of a non Catholic saved with a good conscience, in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire.

All people with no exception need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation (Ad Gentes 7), he said, which is "the ordinary way of salvation".

Those who know about Jesus and the Church and yet do not enter are on the way to Hell (AG 7) while those who have not had the Gospel preached to them through no fault of their own can be saved. In both cases he said it is only God who can judge.

There is no contradiction in Vatican Council II when Ad Gentes 7 states faith and baptism are necessary for salvation for all and also mentions that there are exceptions, cases of implicit salvation known to only God observed Fr.Massimo.

Neither does Vatican Council II contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus he said as it was interpreted by St. Francis Xavier and the Jesuits of that time.

I was speaking with this Italian priest at the Chiesa del Gesu for about 20 minutes. I reminded him that the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus indicates all Protestants are on the way to Hell. Ad Gentes 7 has the same message, in what Fr. Massimo calls ‘the ordinary way of salvation’.

Protestants have the baptism of water but do not have Catholic Faith (AG 7, LG 14). He agreed they did not have the Sacraments which were the means of salvation. However he was not willing to say that all Protestants on earth, de facto, need to enter the Church for salvation.

Earlier he agreed that we do not know a single case of implicit salvation i.e. those saved with a good conscience, having a good moral life according to the Gospel etc.

St. Francis Xavier, St. Robert Bellarmine and the other Jesuits would agree with Fr. Massimo that the Catholic Church is the ordinary way of salvation for all. However they would proclaim that all Buddhists, Hindus, Jews and Muslims need to formally and visibly enter the Church for salvation; to avoid Hell. The Vice Rector of the Church in which lies the body of St. Ignatius Loyola will not make this proclamation.

So Fr. Massimo could mean in principle (de jure) we agree that Vatican Council II does not contradict the ex cathedra dogma Cantate Domino, Council of Florence and in principle we agree we do not know any case of a non Catholic saved implicitly. However de facto (in reality) we can know cases of non Catholics saved implicitly (with a good conscience, invincible ignorance etc) so Vatican Council II (LG 16) does in fact, in reality contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and St. Francis Xavier.

He also believes that all the non Catholics in Goa, India, the Portuguese colony where St. Francis Xavier evangelized, were in invincible ignorance. Fr. Massimo assumes all the people in Goa were in invincible ignorance even though he said today we do not know of any case of a person saved in invincible ignorance.

So for him all those non Catholics in Goa, except for those who committed crime and did evil, were saved before the arrival of the Jesuits. In reality, for Fr. Massimo Morelli S.J, all religions and paganism are de facto equal paths to salvation while in principle, in theory, Catholic Faith and the baptism of water is the ordinary way of salvation.

They were in invincible ignorance in Goa i.e in general, they had not had the Gospel preached to them. Invincible ignorance in general is the ordinary way of salvation for Fr. Massimo. Also it is in some way explicitly known that they were all in invincible ignorance in Goa.

Invincible ignorance and implicit salvation is not the ordinary way of salvation according to the Catholic Church. Neither is invincible ignorance explicitly known to us in particular cases.

This contradicts Cantate Domino, Vatican Council I (AG 7, LG 14) and Dominus Iesus 20.This is the proclamation of the Jesuits today!

In his homily at the 12 p.m Mass yesterday Fr.Massimo said that salvation is open to all people  but did not mention that to receive this salvation all people need to enter the Catholic Church. (Dominus Iesus 20).

-Lionel Andrades