Monday, November 7, 2011

KANSAS CITY DIOCESE AFFIRMS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, THE CHURCH FATHERS,POPES, SAINTS AND FR.LEONARD FEENEY

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2011
KANSAS CITY DIOCESE COULD HAVE SHORT MISSION COURSES BASED ON BISHOP RAYMOND BOLAND’S FIVE POINTS

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2011
BISHOP ROBERT FINN AND BISHOP RAYMOND BOLAND OF KANSAS CITY AFFIRMING THE CHURCH’S TEACHINGS ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS ?
Diocese Director of Communications unsure.

Thursday, November 3, 2011
BISHOP EMERITUS RAYMOND J.BOLAND OF KANSAS CITY CORRESPONDS WITH FR.PETER SCOTT OF THE SSPX ON THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2011
DOMINUS IESUS AFFIRMS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

-Lionel Andrades
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KANSAS CITY DIOCESE COULD HAVE SHORT MISSION COURSES BASED ON BISHOP RAYMOND BOLAND’S FIVE POINTS

Bishops Boland and Finn are completely committed to the authentic Magisterium in all circumstances says Diocese Office of Communications. No denial from Kansas City.

Bishop Raymond Boland, Emeritus Bishop of Kansas City in a letter to Fr. Peter Scott of the Society of St. Pius X said the teachings of the Catholic Church on the subject of extra ecclesiam nulla salus are clear. He cited five important points.
 These five points can be the basis of a short course on Catholic Mission for lay members of the diocese. They have only to be explained in detail.Then  lay Catholics can use them in mission programs. In street-mission or other forms of evangelising proclaiming the Catholic Faith outside of which there is no salvation.

I have received an e-mail from Rebecca Summers, the Director of the Diocese Office of Communications, Kansas City. She writes in response to BISHOP ROBERT FINN, BISHOP RAYMOND BOLAND AFFIRM THE ‘RIGORIST INTERPRETATION’ OF EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS : NO DENIAL FROM KANSAS CITY the last blog post, on eucharistandmission.

Lionel
Bishop Boland is travelling and unavailable to comment. Delicate questions of ecclesiology and other theological questions should always be evaluated in their context. Bishops Boland and Finn are completely committed to the authentic Magisterium in all circumstances.
Rebecca Summers 
Bishops Boland and Finn are completely committed to the authentic Magisterium in all circumstances says Rebecca Summers. So the diocese acknowledges that Pope Pius XII supported Fr.Leonard Feeney in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and he was not excommunicated for heresy and this is the teaching of the Magisterium.

 Here are the five points of Bishop Boland.

1. 'The documentation produced by the Holy See during the famous Father Feeney case in Boston in the 1950s.'This document, the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 mentions the dogma, the infallible teaching. The dogma indicates all non Catholics in Boston need to convert into the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. So this documentation supported Fr. Leonard Feeney .It no where mentions that he was excommunicated for heresy. The excommunication was lifted without him having to recant his teaching on extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Assuming he was excommunicated for heresy it would mean the Church Fathers, the popes, the saints were all in heresy for saying every one needs to be a visible member of the Church and there are no exceptions. http://www.catholicism.org/downloads/Peter_Vere_SBC.pdf

2. Vatican II’s Lumen Gentium.
Vatican’s Lumen Gentium supports Fr. Leonard Feeney in LG 14 which says all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.
Lumen Gentium 16 refers to those who can be saved in invincible ignorance. This is not an exception to the dogma since we do not know any explicit case of someone saved in invincible ignorance. We accept the possibility of such salvation but know that the ordinary means of salvation is Catholic Faith and the baptism of water (LG 14). (1)

3. Father Maurice Eminyan’s articles on this topic in the New Catholic Encyclopedia.

The Jesuit priest affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.(2)


4. Various references to Salvation in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. (The Second Edition, from the Latin text, is the better translation.)

The Catechism of the Catholic Church(CCC) 845,846 says all need to enter the Church ‘as through a door’; the Church is the only Ark of Noah that saves in the flood.

All who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church (CCC 846). This includes those who have received the baptism of water with Catholic Faith and those who are saved through the baptism of desire, invincible ignorance etc and are known only to God. Those who are saved through the baptism of desire are not exceptions to the dogma, they do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

5. The Declaration of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Dominus Jesus (August 6, 2000).

Dominus Iesus 20 tells us that Jesus died for all however for all people to receive this salvation they need to enter the Catholic Church. The Church is necessary for salvation. This also is an affirmation of the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus which Pope Pius XII called an ‘infallible statement’.The Church's position on this issue is clear wrote Bishop Raymond Boland.

The authentic Magisterium is the same as that of Fr. Leonard Feeney, the Church Fathers, popes, Councils and saints. It is supported by Vatican Council II and magisterial documents before and after Vatican Council II. -Lionel Andrades

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2011
BISHOP ROBERT FINN AND BISHOP RAYMOND BOLAND OF KANSAS CITY AFFIRMING THE CHURCH’S TEACHINGS ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS ?
Diocese Director of Communications unsure.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/bishop-robert-finn-and-bishop-raymond.html

Thursday, November 3, 2011
BISHOP EMERITUS RAYMOND J.BOLAND OF KANSAS CITY CORRESPONDS WITH FR.PETER SCOTT OF THE SSPX ON THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/bishop-emeritus-raymond-jboland-of.html

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2011
DOMINUS IESUS AFFIRMS EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/dominus-iesus-affirms-extra-ecclesiam.html

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Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism (124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.-Lumen Gentium 14

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7

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‘The Catholic Church herself is necessary for salvation by absolute necessity of means.{3} There is no salvation without the mediation of the Catholic Church; one must somehow belong to or be united to the Catholic Church in order to be saved: “all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is His Body” (CCC 846)

Formal membership in the Catholic Church is necessary for salvation by relative necessity of means.{7} Under certain conditions, people who are not formal members of the Catholic Church and are otherwise united to the Catholic Church can be saved.{8}

The Catholic Church is necessary for salvation by necessity of precept because Christ positively wills this and made it the law of the Church{11} He founded on St. Peter [Mt 16:18; Lk 10:16; Acts 20:28; 1 Thess 5:12-13; Heb 13:7,17].

Only Catholics are “actual members“ of the Church founded by Christ, formally incorporated into the Mystical Body of Christ.{12} Vatican II decrees (Lumen Gentium 14).

“All validly baptized non-Catholics” (e.g., the Eastern Orthodox) are “radically joined“ to the Catholic Church, the Mystical Body of Christ.{14} The indelible character imprinted by their valid baptism “gives them a proximate intrinsic exigency for incorporation into the Church.” If they are in good faith and a state of sanctifying grace, they unwittingly “really belong“ to the Catholic Church.{15}( Fr.Maurice Eminyan S.J ).

(Note: In principle we accept the possibility 'in certain circumstances'(Letter of the Holy Office 1949) of a member of the Orthodox Churches to be saved. This would be known only to God. In general however, all members of the Orthodox Churches, with no exception, need to enter the Catholic Church for salvation. (Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441, Vatican Council II, Lumen Gentium 14, Ad Gentes 7 etc). http://thebananarepublican1.wordpress.com/2009/12/25/extra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus/

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Above all else, it must be firmly believed that “the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5), and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through baptism as through a door”. This doctrine must not be set against the universal salvific will of God (cf. 1 Tim 2:4); “it is necessary to keep these two truths together, namely, the real possibility of salvation in Christ for all mankind and the necessity of the Church for this salvation”. - Dominus Iesus 20.