Saturday, November 12, 2011

CATHOLICS ARE FIGHTING IT OUT ON TRADITIONAL FORUMS :TENSION OVER STRAWMAN SINCE THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION

A truce is needed since the baptism of desire is always implicit. It would have to be explicitly known to conflict with the dogma outside the church there is no salvation. Since these cases are hidden they are really not exceptions. There are no defacto exceptions. If we consider them as exceptions it would mean we can meet non Catholics on the street saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. You could say to such a person whom you meet, “ Hi John, I’m glad you were saved with the baptism of desire you arose from the dead and returned to live with us once again. I heard the same thing happened with your sister Francesca”.

Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct in saying there were no exceptions to the dogmatic teaching. The dogma does not mention exceptions. Neither does Vatican Council II refer to explicit, visible cases of those saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire. It refers to implicit cases known to God only.

Ecclesia Dei needs to organise a conference on the dogma extra ecclesiam null salus to sort things out.

Affirming the baptism of desire does not conflict with what the secular media calls the ‘rigorist interpretation’ of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.-Lionel Andrades