Saturday, July 14, 2012

SSPX TO WORK UNDER ‘SPOTTER’ BISHOPS IN BOSTON ETC IT IS NECESSARY TO CLARFIY THAT WE CANNOT SEE THE DEAD


Assuming that the SSPX has received canonical status and works for example in the dioceses of Boston, Worcester, Manchester,USA  the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) has to remove tension and clarify that Vatican Council II agrees with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since Ad Gentes 7 supports the dogma while LG 8 and 16 are not exceptions. If they were exceptions it would mean we can spot the dead saved in invincible ignorance etc.

They would have to assure Cardinal Sean O Malley and the other bishops that the SSPX are not  ‘spotters’. They cannot see the dead.So they do not know of any exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.

Then they would have to assure the cardinal and the bishops that they fully support Vatican Council II and so cannot accept the ‘theology of religions’ or the ‘ecclesiology of communion’ since Ad Gentes 7 says all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation.

Then they must assure the cardinal and bishops that they love all Jews and other non Catholics just as Jesus asks of them and they also believe that Jews were the People of God. Vatican Council II (Nostra Aetate 4) says that the Catholic Church is the new people of God.Catholics are now the Chosen People of God.They have the Jewish Messiah,promised by the Jewish prophets, the eternal Covenant and  the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass.They have the baptism of water.
-Lionel Andrades

SSPX VATICAN COUNCIL II IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS : ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF ‘SPOTTING’ IN LUMEN GENTIUM 16 AND LUMEN GENTIUM 8


Archbishop Augustine di Noia indicates he can spot cases of persons now dead but with saving grace (LG 8) so Vatican Council II contradicts the dogma.

It’s not known if the Vice President of Ecclesia Dei and others can see the dead as spectres, spectacles, spots or specs. But the dead they can see in the dioceses of Manchester, Boston etc.

Before working in these dioceses the Society of St. Pius X has to remove tension and clarify that Vatican Council II agrees with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since Ad Gentes 7 supports the dogma while LG 8 and 16 are not exceptions. If they were exceptions it would mean we can spot the dead saved in invincible ignorance etc.

Since AG 7 supports the dogma and there are no known exceptions because we cannot ‘spot’ the dead, the SSPX position on other religions, including Judaism, is in agreement with Vatican Council II.

The SSPX could ask the bishops of Manchester, Boston etc to respect Vatican Council II and not make ‘spotting’ claims.

The SSPX has signed the doctrinal preamble accepting Vatican Council according to Tradition. Tradition includes the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The SSPX would have to explain to Bishop Peter Libasci, bishop of Manchester, USA that the SSPX loves all non Catholics as Jesus asks of them and that the Catholic Church officially teaches, that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they convert into the Church. (Vatican Council II etc).God created man good in the Garden of Eden but now we carry Adam’s Sin. This Original Sin can only be removed with the baptism of water.

If there are any non Catholics in invincible ignorance they can be saved (perhaps also with the baptism of water if God chooses) but it is only God who can judge who is in invincible ignorance and who has had the Gospel preached to him; who knew about Jesus and the Church, and yet did not enter. (LG 14).

There can be the traditional acceptance of the dogma according to Vatican Council II with no known exceptions.-Lionel Andrades