Wednesday, December 26, 2012

SSPX SELLS HERETICAL BOOK BASED ON THE IRRATIONALITY OF THE DEAD MAN WALKING THEORY

Here is the blurb of a book being sold by the SSPX.

Sr. Sunshine says, "All nice people go to heaven."
Fr. Overreact says, "Only water-baptized Catholics go to heaven."
Both are dead wrong!


Lionel:
Only water baptized Catholics go to Heaven -yes! Unless the SSPX knows some case in 2012 which is an exception? Can Fr.Laisney name any exception in 2012 ? No he cannot but he assumes like the SSPX bishops that there are dead man walking on earth who are saved. He assumes that these cases can be explicit.
Is Feeneyism Catholic

Question 321, Baltimore Catechism: "How can those be saved who through no fault of their own have not received the sacrament of Baptism?"
Answer: "Those who through no fault of their own have not received the sacrament of Baptism can be saved through what is called baptism of blood or baptism of desire." Period. Amen... for most of us.

Lionel:
Yes we accept in principle that they can be saved with the baptism of desire and blood- period! The Baltimore Catechism does not say that we know these cases in the present times and neither does it state that these cases must be considered exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The SSPX implies that the dead man walking saved with the baptism of desire is an exception and explicit for us. They extend this fault to their interpretation of Vatican Council II.

For instance they cannot provide any reference in Vatican Council II which contradicts the traditional teaching on other religions unless they are using the dead man walking theory.

But some, who even call themselves traditional Catholics, cannot accept this simple teaching of our catechism. They cannot accept baptism of desire because they confuse the grace of baptism (which is necessary for salvation) with the character of baptism (which is not necessary for salvation). Because of this confusion, they deny the simple truth that all that is really necessary for salvation is to die in the state of grace.

Lionel:
Those who die in a state of grace and do not allegely receive the baptism of water, are known only to God.How can the SSPX presume that we know these cases and if we do not know these cases why mention it? How does it contradict the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney if these cases are not visible on earth ? The baptism of desire has nothing to do with his interpretation.Zero cases of something are not exceptions says the apologist John Martigioni.

This is serious. And you need to know how to address these errors, how to defend the orthodox Faith, how to defend yourself and your family, and how to help those sitting in the darkness of error. This book examines these simple truths of our catechism. Quoting heavily the Church's Magisterium, Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the writings of the Saints, Fr. Laisney explains the Church's teaching on Baptism of Desire. A defense of Catholicism, not of false ecumenism. Father's new edition is twice the size of his original work and is enriched and made more convincing by copious quotations from the writings of the Saints.

Lionel:
 No where in the writings of the ' Church's Magisterium, Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Saints' is it said that the baptism of desire is visible and so an exception to anything. One has to wrongly assume it and the SSPX does so.

The SSPX book implies  that implicit salvation is explicit.Then they conclude that Vatican Council II contradicts Tradition, the dogma on salvation, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism and the traditional teaching on other religions.
-Lionel Andrades

http://angeluspress.org/Is-Feeneyism-Catholic?keyword=laisney
http://www.sspx.org/miscellaneous/various_churches_fr_laisney_12-21-2012.htm

SSPX CORRECT YOUR DOCTRINAL ERROR AND APPEAL TO THE CDF TO DO THE SAME
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/12/sspx-correct-your-doctrinal-error-and.html#links

DOCTRINAL ERROR OF ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE AND SSPX BISHOPS POSTED A NEW ON U.S WEBSITE

SSPX repeats heresy of rejecting Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with allegedly visible cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.

The SSPX U.S website has reposted an article by Fr.Francois Laisney which indicates that the baptism of desire is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) is still struck with  the dead man walking on earth virus. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops have also assumed that the baptism of desire is relevant to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.
Fr. Francois Laisney

This means the SSPX still interprets the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 as a break with Tradition. So they would also be interpreted Vatican Council II, Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance etc) as a break with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors.Then they blame Vatican Council II !


Without the premise of the dead man walking saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance, the interpretation of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II changes.


So much of analysis and verbiage and yet Fr. Laisney and Fr.Peter Scott on this website will not answer two simple questions.


Fr.Francois Laisney and the SSPX are making the same error of the progressives. The assume the dead saved can be seen and then presume that these cases are exceptions or relevant to the literal interpretaion of Fr.Leonard Feeney.


The SSPX General Chapter has stated that there are no exceptions- Fr.Laisney says there are exceptions to the dogma!


Whether the baptism of desire results in justification or salvation is irrelevant to the dogma since we do not know and cannot know any of these cases.
-Lionel Andrades
http://sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/three_errors_of_feeneyites.htm