Wednesday, January 9, 2013

SSPX PRIEST CONTRADICTS REUTERS,WORLD JEWISH CONGRESS UNDERSTANDING OF VATICAN COUNCIL II AND OTHER RELIGIONS

Don Pierpaolo
A priest of the Society of St.Pius X in Rome could not cite any text in Vatican Council II which contradicts the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He said implicit salvation is not visible to us . References to those saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) were not exceptions to the dogma on salvation.

He contradicted the claim by heads of Jewish organisations like ADL,SPLC,JWC and Reuters that  Vatican Council II has changed the Catholic Church's understanding on other religions. There is no text in the Council to support the Jewish Left claim.

The priest said that he was not the official spokesman of the SSPX in Italy.
-Lionel Andrades

Another SSPX priest in Rome says implicit salvation is not visible to us and is known only to God.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/another-sspx-priest-in-rome-says.html

REUTERS CONTINUES TO PROJECT MASONIC AGENDA ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/reuters-continues-to-project-masonic.html#links

WORLD JEWISH CONGRESS CONTRADICTED BY ARCHBISHOP, CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAY APOLOGIST
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/world-jewish-congress-contradicted-by.html#links
Photo: Don Pierpaolo Petrucci, Superior of the Fraternita San Pio X, Albano,Italy.He is  not the priest to whom I spoke to in Rome.

REUTERS CONTINUES TO PROJECT MASONIC AGENDA ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

The Jewish Left Reuters once known for its objectivity as a news agency,again refuses to acknowledge that Vatican Council II is in agreement with the SSPX position on other religions.Reuters continues to project the Masonic agenda on the Catholic Church with no textual reference in the Council for the claims being made about Vatican Council II.
Tom Heneghan

It states :
'Jewish support for the modernizing reforms of the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council showed that the SSPX was opposed to the Church'.(1) This is false since Vatican Council II without the dead man walking premise as being used by the heads of Jewish organisations,including Reuters, agrees with the SSPX position on other religions. Without the premise doctrinally Vatican Council II is in agreement with the SSPX. It is only when implicit salvation is assumed to be explicit and so an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus does Vatican Council II emerge modernist for the SSPX.Otherwise the Council is traditional.

Reuters claims that the ' SSPX rejects the Council as a heretical event that betrayed age-old Catholic teaching and undermined the Church.' With the dead man walking premise Vatican Council II is heretical for Catholics and not just the SSPX. Being able to see the dead is not rational and not a part of Catholic teaching. The SSPX rejects the Jewish Left version of the Council with the added on false premise of the visible dead.

Reuters says 'Talks between the SSPX and the Vatican to reintegrate them fully into Church structures ended in failure last year because the SSPX refused to accept Council reforms - including Rome's reconciliation with the Jews - as valid Catholic teaching.' The SSPX has often said that they are not opposed to Jews in general. They have issued a clarification that they are opposed to the Heads of Jewish organisations. This could also include that of Reuters.

Reuters states  ' The Second Vatican Council "shifted the relationship between Catholics and Jews into a positive direction" there cannot be a positive direction when Reuters makes an objective, factual error about Vatican Council II and claims this is the teaching of the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades

1
http://www.reuters.com/assets/print?aid=USBRE9060OM20130107


2
December 20, 2012

Archbishop Gerhard Muller says that the SSPX needs to distinguish the true teaching of the Second Vatican Council: but he will not correct Reuters.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/12/archbishop-gerhard-muller-says-that.html#links

REUTERS MAKES FACTUAL,OBJECTIVE MISTAKE TOO
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-factualobjective-mistake.html#links

REUTERS MAKES AN OBJECTIVE MISTAKE ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND ECCLESIA DEI/ CDF DO NOT CLARIFY
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/reuters-makes-objective-mistake-on.html#links

WASHINGTON POST REPORT ON SSPX WRONG ON CATHOLIC DOCTRINE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/washington-post-report-on-sspx-is-wrong.html#links



WORLD JEWISH CONGRESS CONTRADICTED BY ARCHBISHOP, CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAY APOLOGIST
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/world-jewish-congress-contradicted-by.html#links

WORLD JEWISH CONGRESS CONTRADICTED BY ARCHBISHOP, CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAY APOLOGIST


The Jewish Left is still using the dead man walking premise.

'At the Second Vatican Council during the 1960s, the Catholic Church passed a number of reforms and redefined its relationship with other confessions and religions, including Judaism. The SSPX rejects the reforms of the council', according to the World Jewish Congress(WJC).(1)


A U.S Archbishop, Catholic priests and the lay apologist John Martigioni (2)contradict the WJC . They state that those saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance are not visible to us. So implicit salvation mentioned in Vatican Council II are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

The WJC cannot cite any text in Vatican Council II which has changed the Church's traditional teaching on other religions.

Nostra Aetate for example does not state that non Catholics do not have to convert into the Catholic Church or that their religions are paths to salvation.

Neither does Nostra Aetate contradict Ad Gentes 7 which states all need faith and baptism for salvation. Lumen Gentium 16 (invincible ignorance etc) are not exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Since we do not know any of these cases in 2013 they cannot be  considered exceptions.
President

The JWC interprets Vatican Council II with the dead man saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire and now visible to us premise. Without this irrational premise Vatican Council II is traditional and in accord with the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) position on other religions, including Judaism.

Without the false premise the SSPX is doctrinally in accord with Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades

1.
http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/12869/pius_brotherhood_leader_calls_jews_enemies_of_the_catholic_church

2.
ARCHBISHOP,CATHOLIC PRIESTS AND LAY APOLOGIST SAY VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS : "We don't know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge"
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishopcatholic-priests-and-lay.html

REDEMPTORIST PRIEST SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT ITSELF NOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/redemptorist-priest-says-vatican.html#links

Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigioni
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html#links

Archbishop, numerous priests and lay Catholic apologist contradict CDF Prefects- baptism of desire cases are not visible to us
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/archbishop-numerous-priests-and-lay.html#links

Photo of  Ronald S. Lauder, President of the World Jewish Congress